Table discussion of pressing issues about the substance, purpose and quality of doctoral programs in counselor education reflected by data on current doctoral programs, student career goals and interests and research productivity of CES doctoral graduates. Trends in doctoral education in the mental health professions will be considered such as a Ph.D. preparing discipline scholars and a professional doctoral degree to produce skilled practitioners. Potential outcomes if counseling offered both types of doctorate are discussed with questions posed to participants including: "How do we as a profession define the purposes of our doctoral degree?"and "What degree models would address the key issues of professional counseling today?"